Brian P. Giovanoni, former chairman of Middleboro’s Casino Resort Advisory Committee, believes he’s found potential inaccuracies in Lynch’s report.Giovanoni said one point is in direct contradiction to the tribe’s federal recognition, which found continuous tribal ties dating to first contact with European settlers.
Uuuummm....Brian.....did you even read the Tribe's Federal Recognition? I would have to say no after reading your comments. Here is a "fact" for you Factfinder....
The number of times Mashpee is mentioned in the Final Determination: 265
(this number does not include the footnotes or page headings)
The number of times Middleboro is mentioned in the Final Determination: 0
(this number does include the footnotes and page headings)
In case you don't understand Brian - or are learning math from a Tribal leader who actually thinks there are two LIT applications pending....Mashpee, 265.....Middleboro....BIG FAT ZEEERRRO. I hardly think not mentioning Middleboro in their federal recognition constitutes continuous tribal ties dating to first contact with European settlers - at least not in Middleboro. Sure, they may have had contact....but obviously not in Middleboro or they would have mentioned that. If you are still confused, please feel free to read all about what the federal recognition actually says about the Tribe's historical ties, here. Or, if you prefer, I would be ever so happy to send you a personal copy of it....you know...so you can add it to your thousands of pages of facts you have on the non-impacts to the environment a casino would have in Middleboro or the surrounding communities and how wonderful all of our lives would be if only that darned resort bingo hall could be built.
Lynch is also “saying this tribe has never asserted political authority over any residents within the town of Middleboro, which is untrue,” Giovanoni said. “There are voting members of the tribe living here today.”
Huh....now that is interesting, and probably quite true....but....just because there are Tribal members living in Middleboro now doesn't automatically mean they have political authority over residents within the town of Middleboro. That is like saying, the vote of a Middleboro resident who is a Mashpee tribal member is more important than, or more authoritative than the average joe living in Town. Jeesh....one would hope that isn't the case in Middleboro. Here is what the federal recognition said about politcial influence....in case ya missed it the last time I brought it up:
Political Influence:
".....political control of the town of Mashpee...."
"....evidence of the Mashpee's residental patterns...was also sufficient to demonstrate political influence..."
"....gave the Mashpee greater self-government by establishing an "Indian District" in Mashpee, Massachusetts..."
"....as part of an Indian District...the Mashpee gained complete control of political, legal and economic affairs in the town (of Mashpee)...."
"....Mashpee adapted the principal elements of the town governmental system...."
Yeah, I can totally see the connection to Middleboro, the political influence and all...or as Brian would call it....authority... because a few tribal members live in town. What in the world was Jim Lynch thinking???
Gosh...Brian must be feeling oh so confident and super-duper smart....a true factfinder...especially after what the Vice Chairman of the Mashpee Wampanoag Tribe, Aaron Tobey said....
Tobey said he hasn’t read the report complied by Lynch, but added, “if it’s accurate, it’s good to know now.”
Is it me....or shouldn't the Vice Chair of the Tribal Council already know if this is accurate or not??Oh - and I bet this comment really got Brian's factfinding senses tingling.....
Tobey said Grabowski’s final report has yet to be released, but said that she has compiled “convincing evidence” the tribe has links to the land in Middleboro.
For the record, Christine Grabowski can write and re-write all the historical reports she wants for the Tribe....her final report is about two years too late. The only report that matters is the one submitted by the Tribe in their LIT application - the one Jim Lynch tears apart in his report. The Tribe cannot change their application so by all means let Ms. Grabowski write her final report. I look forward to reading it. And by all means Brian, continue to tell us all about the potential inaccuracies you find in Mr. Lynch's report....I love a good laugh.
The only potential inaccuracies this chick sees is, yet again, in another fly by night comment hand fed to the media by our friend Factfinder. Great job, Brian....I guess you can now add tribal historian to your endless list of expertise.
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19 comments:
CC,
WOW! Talk about diving into the deep end head first! Nice blog! Glad to see you're back.
With a vengeance, I might add!
Don't be too hard on MR G, he is nursing a bad Kool-Aid hangover, while trying to kick CRAC and is on a no marshmallow diet.
Seriousley, when the BOS picked factfinder they made sure he left his objectivity at the door.
Is CRAC, which we all know is the Casino Resort Advisory Committee, even still around?
Re: CRAC - ya shuda seen the performence at the BOS meeting last night. Undying devotion to a dead cause or "how will we spend the money?"
CC, I know this will seem somewhat silly to you, but yes, CRAC is still around. In fact, there is an article about them virtually every week in the Gazette. But you will be reassured that they recently recommended hiring a part-time someone instead of a full-time someone to do something for the casino that is NEVER GOING TO COME.
So let's see - the Enterprise is finally having it's doubts, then Abomb gave the thing a 50-50, now CRAC is hedging it's bets.
I suspect, therefore, that it will only be a matter of time before Brian is quoted in the paper explaining how he knew all along that the casino wasn't coming.
"just because there are Tribal members living in Middleboro now...".
Funny, there's that little important word again, "now"
I'm still amazed at the fact no one in Middleboro or even the Tribe itself seems to have read their application?? Two LIT applications???? YES AMAZING, and here is a case where ignorance is not bliss!
They couldn't have, or there would not be so many of these stupid comments especially from the Tribe itself. Talk about looking ignorant of your own business ventures, (Tribe & BOS). Oh ya, this is the C.O. I want to do business with.
Good job cc, apparently the real "factfinder".
With Abomb, perpetual candidate for dog catcher, ofering free advice,how could he lose?Even Abomb,bigest bingo hall cheerleeder who couldnt grab mics fast enuf, is hedging with his "I negotiated an agreement to protect the town IF it comes."
We comin! we comin! I just wanted to throw that in there.P.S. I think Brian was picked on alot in school.
Didnt BG resign from CRAC because of a conflict?Or was he laid off or something?Maybe he can run for Pat Rodgers seat when he finally resigns.
Is it fair to pick on one person who never let the facts get in the way of his opinion?
The hack job he did on that amateurish "casino report" says something about the author that half the town agrees with because they're incapable of analyzing.
It's like watching sheep blindly following the Judas' Goat.
Explosive response. Well deserved!Just think.We have to live with this kind of superficial thinking and cant atach our names to critisism or we risk repercusion from the mindless amongst us.We apreciate you being there to say what we cant.
CC,
The criticism was right on target, but the problem is that he's more "informed" than the BOS.
If you had the displeasure to watch Monday's meeting, it was filled with people who have no idea what's going on.
These people are clearly too lazy to read.
Not living in Middleboro but watching from afar, how do you anti residents cope????
One thing to still be in the mix of, is it coming or isin't it, from all that I have read about, (since some people had the foresight to get the Tribe's application and read it!), it has been very apparent that the Middleboro casino was not a serious venture for the investers!!!!!! Then SCOTUS decisions!! and some of these pro casino residents are still hanging on to, "it will come"
SCOTUS alone should wake them up from their dream world.
RIGHT FROM THE SUPREME COURT'S OWN DOCUMENTS: "The Court and Constitutional Interpretation"
When the Supreme Court rules on a constitutional issue, that judgement is virtually final: its decisions can be altered only by the rarely used procedure of constitutional amendment or by a new ruling of the Court.
Sounds like there might be chance to change the C v S ruling?, NOPE, not a chance, one small start up tried, was shot down immediately, all states are supporting this decision.
Now, the real last nail in this coffin? Won't matter if their is a C v S fix, the Hawaii, SCOTUS, decision finalized the NO CASINO in Middleboro for tribe.
Don't any of the pro's get it? Don't any one of them read?
It must be frustrating dealing w/this type of ignorance! Good luck and God speed to you anti's.
At least the Tribe had the sense to make a statement that they hadn't read the report.Too bad BG didnt do the same.Theres some factual information in Lynch's comments.Oh,I forgot that BG doesnt deal in facts.My bad!
Dear Brian,
It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and THEN DON'T SAY IT!
Actually, there is a 2nd LIT application.
I was written by Mickey Mouse, and filed in Never-Never land.
Which is where the first one should have gone.
Great blog and nice to have you back. The casino fight is mcuh more interesting with you around making fools out of the "experts".
I say we put CC and BG in a room to duke it out.
Or I guess a debate would be a more polite way to handle differing opionions.
Either way, CC's coming out on top.
You've been missed. Nice to see your blogging again.
Dear anon 8:37 and 10:16...
THANK YOU!! I really needed a good laugh and your comments really hit the mark.
I am still laughing!
Gladys -- the entire CRAC thing will always be silly to me, but you already know that. I find all things Middleboro casino silly at this point, which is actually a relief. To think that two years ago I was actually worried and thinking there was nothing I could do about it seems sureal to me now...and I thank everyone who has fought the "myth of inevitability" for that.
Vincent Lombardi once said,
"The achievements of an organization are the results of the combined effort of each individual."
He is right, because through this fight, we have had a brilliant collection of minds that can and do share the burden of that myth, and the grief (and conquer it!)...and it has made all the difference.
knowledge certainly is power, now isn't it.
July 30, 2009 10:23 PM
Right on, CC!
If knowledge is power, BG is a 5 watt bulb.
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